General DSM Info
What is a DSM?

A DSM is a car built by Diamond Star Motors, a joint venture between Mitsubishi (three Diamonds) and Chrysler (penta-star). The vehicles were produced with the names Eagle Talon, Mitsubishi Eclipse, and Plymouth Laser. DSM cars are assembled in Normal, Illinois.

DSM cars began production in 1989 and officially ended in 1993 after the design and production for the 1994-1995 dsms. Mitsubishi became responsible for the operation of the 1995-1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse and Eagle Talon. We still call the 1995 to 1999 a DSM. The 1989-1994 is called the first generation DSM (1g DSM) and the 1995-1999 is the second generation DSM (2g DSM).

The motor in the 90-92.5 is a 6 bolt motor (most desired, handles more power), and the 93-99 contains a 7 bolt motor,(less desired, does not hold up to much horsepower). The 1g also has three different Mitsubishi engine types, the 1.8 non turbo motor, 2.0 non turbo motor, and the 2.0 turbo motor. All three motorshave manual (5 speed transmissions) and also auto (with overdrive) transmissions. All of the non turbo motors only have Front Wheel Drive (FWD) Transmissions. The turbo motor has FWD and AWD (All Wheel Drive) transmissions. The 2g DSM has two different motors, the 2.0 turbo mitsubishi motor, and the Chrysler 2.0 non turbo Motor.

Some people call the 2000+ Eclipse a 3g, but most will agree that it is not a 3rd generation DSM, but it is the 3rd generation eclipse. The 2000+ is a completely different motor.


Parts Comparison

Parts

First Generation

Second Generation

Cylinder Head Ports

larger, more flow

smaller, less flow

Intake Manifold

larger

Smaller

Combustion

less Efficient

more efficient

Connecting rods

1g (89-92.5) bigger 1g (92.5-94) smaller

Smaller

Compression

7.8:1

8.5:1

Flywheel/crankshaft:

(89-92.5) 6 bolt
(92.5-94) 7 bolt

7 bolt

Turbo

M/t 14B A/t 13G

T-25

Exhaust Manifold:

less air flow

more air flow

O2 Housing:

less air flow

more air flow

Throttle Body:

60mm

52mm

Throttle Body Elbow

smaller, less flow

larger, more flow

Fuel injectors

M/t 450cc A/t 390cc

450cc

Fuel Pressure Regulator

M/t 36.3 psi.
A/t 42.7 psi.

43 psi

Cam Angle Sensor:

yes

2g A no
2g B yes

Crank Sensor

No

Yes

MAS/MAF:

Less Air Flow

More Air Flow

Oil cooler (turbo model):

90 external (air)
91-94 internal (water)

Internal (water)

SMIC (turbo model):

larger core, smaller inlet/oultet

smaller core,larger inlet/outlet

BOV:

Steel

Plastic (vulnerable to leaking)

ECU:

91-94 Some (90 - most)

95- Most (96-99 None, stock)

Crankwalk:

almost unheard of

20-35% common

Rear Diferential:

89 - 92.5 3 bolt Weak
92.5-94 4 bolt Stronger

4 bolt stronger

Suspension:

stronger, lighter

weaker, heavier

Front calipers:

90- 94 FWD single piston90- 92.5AWD single piston 92.5-94 AWD Dual piston

FWD single piston
AWD Dual Piston

Rims:

1.8 models 14”,15”,16”
2.0 models 16”

FWD 16”
AWD 17”


Turbo Schematics
Picture found on askjeeves


1g to 2g DSM
90-94 Eclipse, Talon, Laser

Specification Base Medium High model (FWD) Premium Model (AWD)
Eclipse GS GS GS/GST GSX
Talon DL ES/ESi TSi TSi AWD
Laser none/RS RS RS Turbo RS Turbo AWD
Engine 1.8L 4g37 2.0L 4g63 2.0L turbo 4g63 2.0L turbo 4g63
Horsepower 92 135 190 / 195 (M/T) 180 (A/T) 190 / 195 (M/T)
Valves 8v 16v 16v 16v

1995-1999 Talon, Eclipse

Specification Base model Mid model High model (FWD) Premium model (AWD)
Eclipse RS GS GST GSX
Talon ES ESi TSi TSi AWD
Engine 2.0L 420a 2.0L 420a 2.0L turbo 4g63 2.0L turbo 4g63
Horsepower 140 140 210 210
Valves 16v 16v 16v 16v

 

General Useful Information

1 horsepower=33,000 foot pounds per minute

Horsepower can be converted into other units as well. For example:
1 horsepower is equivalent to 746 watts. So if you took a 1-horsepower horse and put it on a treadmill, it could operate a generator producing a continuous 746 watts.
1 horsepower (over the course of an hour) is equivalent to 2,545 BTU (British thermal units). If you took that 746 watts and ran it through an electric heater for an hour, it would produce 2,545 BTU (where a BTU is the amount of energy needed to raise the temperature of 1 pound of water 1 degree F). One BTU is equal to 1,055 joules, or 252 gram-calories or 0.252 food Calories.
 
Presumably, a horse producing 1 horsepower would
burn 641 Calories in one hour if it were 100-percent efficient.

Tuning with O2 voltage readings                
Every car is different when it comes to tuning settings. The 1st gen usually reads a lower voltage (leaner) especially 90's, due to grounding issues. Also 1st gens have a lower compression ratio so you can run your car leaner before 7 counts of knock which will retard your timing.

90-94 Turbo Models Only
Fuel type
Volatage (lean/rich)
91 Octane
.89 -.91 volts
92 Octane
.88 volts
93-94 Octane
.86 volts
95-99 Turbo Models Only
Fuel type
Volatage (lean/rich)
91 Octane
.94 - .95volts
92 Octane
.94 volts
93-94 Octane
.92 volts

With a 1G car the compression is lower too so you can run leaner before getting knock that retards timing
When the O2 sensor heats up after several runs, the voltage output drops a bit. Usually .94v will drop to .92v.

Vacuum Line/Emissions Removal
vacuum removal, found on some one else's website

Pick Out the DSM'er
 1. Your DSM is the most unreliable car you have ever owned, but still your favorite.
2. Your wife/girlfriend wishes your car never exsisted.
3. You have a garage full of spare engines, just in case.
4. People always ask you what is a "free mod"
5. Your freinds get beat in a race and call you to run the rematch for them.
6. Your Palm Pilot is only for logging your engine's data and nothing else.
7. You know more about the 4G63 engine than some engineers at Mitsubishi.
8. A junk yard to you is an upgrade yard.
9.Your car consists of parts from more than 10 other DSMs.
10. Your car consists of parts other than DSM parts (GM MAF)
11.Your screen name has one of the following in them: DSM 4G63 FWD AWD TSI GSX GS RS TURBO V8 KILLER
12. You take offense when a HONDA or Domestic dude calls you a Riceburner.
13. You've hit your head on the B-pillar during an AWD launch.
 14. The UPS or FedEX guy has been to your house at least 25 times..
15. You can launch your oil dip stick 20ft.
16. You no longer have A/C and dont care at all.
17. A normal weekend involves removing your transmission 5 times.
18. Your Daily Driver is a 12 sec car.
19. You had to remove your radiator fans, because they just don't fit in front of that Turbo.
20. At the Strip you sit around with the Z28s and WS6 guys and talk shit about hondas.
21. You can get your 4cyl to a12.5 second1/4 for $775.
22. You know that you dont need nitrous to run a 1/4 mile in under 12 seconds.
23. "Stock" means that the car has all of the parts it came with, you didn't add a thing, you just dremeled or removed a few, that's all.
24. Eveytime you launch your wipers automatically turn on
25. You are always hanging on the weekends with other DSMers
26. Most of the time driving on the road you are looking for other DSM's.
27. You know if the talon in front of you has a turbo, if it is fwd or awd all from a mile away.
28. You have dsmtrader.com, dsmtuners.com, and the MadDSM site on your favorites :)



9 Rules for Dating a DSM Guy:

1 - Do not touch anything on the car without asking permission. If you get
permission, dont break it.
2 - Do not ask what every sound is, even if you think it sounds funny.
3 - When his friends are in the car, be prepared to get squished into the
back seat, because you're the "smallest"
4 - If something breaks, get a good book/magazine, a comfy lawn chair, and
wear lots of sunscreen and bug spray.
5 - Don't expect him to treat your car with the same respect he treats his
own.
6 - Your gift list for him will be a long list of car parts you have never
heard of.
7 - Get used to driving fast, with the windows down, with only the sounds of
the turbo.
8 - Dont tell him that his hands are dirty. He already knows and he likes it
that way.
9 - You will get pulled over while you're in the car with him. Don't worry,
he's done this before.

 

*I found this on someones profile on myspace 

 


 

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